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Given how hard it is to get any ticket for poor driving in the city to rack up 5 in such a short period is a real accomplishment.

It is curious how none of this is in the "accident " report yet it seem to find it pertinent to report on the fashion choices of the cyclist.

I think we all can now put "accident" in quotes now. To have allowed such a demonstrably poor driver to get behind the wheel of a large and dangerous truck is nothing short of manslaughter.

The deported part is interesting. I hope this doesn't turn into a right-wing witch hunt against Latinos, since they get blamed for everything else.

@JeffB...

Good point. No word on the long history of shaky driving by the truck operator (leaving aside the drug charges), but MPD made sure to note that Swanson was wearing flip-flops...

...though I don't think flip-flops are a terribly good idea to be riding with ...

"...though I don't think flip-flops are a terribly good idea to be riding with ..."

Not sure why not. Or do you think one shouldn't be allowed to ride the half mile to work unless they're in full protective gear.

You wonder why no one rides a damn bike in this country.

No, I just think it's safer to be wearing something that grips the pedals better. Sorry if I offended.

Chris,

The term "witch-hunt" implies that no witches exist, and thus there is no real problem.

But in this country, there is an actual problem with people who are here sans papiers -- mostly from Mexico -- who think it is no problema to drive without licences, insurance coverage, and on occasion get plastered and run into other cars and pedestrians.

It's a standard cultural practice in Mexico to bribe the state equivalent of the DMV for a license and proof of insurance (or just to do without and bribe the police when caught). Why should we be surprised when they bring the same mentality northwards?

Santa Maria, CA just recently did a checkpoint on one of the busiest streets in town and caught two folks for driving under the influence and 22 vehicles driven by folks without licenses. Twenty-one of the impounded vehicles were driven by illegal aliens. (http://tinyurl.com/24jpzmo)

You can’t solve a problem unless you first identify a problem, and you can’t identify a problem if you are prevented from doing so by the dictates of political correctness. If going after people who could kill me on the road is a "right-wing witch hunt" then call me a member of the Inquisition.

What's the old saying, again? "If it saves just ONE life..."

Well, I would not be willing to trade my freedom to save "just one life." "Freedom isn't free" some like to say, and one price of your freedom is that you have to extend it to others.

Yes. Exactly. Thanks MJS for demonstrating the kind of thing I was referring to. I'm guess I should be grateful that the scapegoat is no longer the gays.

Even if your feet had combat boots on them, that's not going to prevent a truck from running into you while you're on a bicycle. People drive cars with flip-flops on. Get them to start wearing something else if shoes are a concern for you.

Wow, we're really touchy here about the flip-flops!

Flip flops are not a good idea on a bike: if your toe gets caught in the chain you are trouble. This happened to an acquaintance, who lost his big toe. He could not walk without special shoes after that.

To set the record straight, I didn't say the driver was "ticketed" -the driver had 5 "incidents" from 2/22/08 to 6/30/08 in DC. Two were for reckless driving, 3 for at-fault collisions. I don't know whether he was ticketed for any of these.

I'm sure the driver *wasn't* ticketed. That's a huge part of the problem. Here he's killed someone through negligence, and he didn't even get a ticket.

So sorry for your loss...

Its easier to crash stop in shoes than flip-flops by dragging your feet is the point that I think people are trying to make.

If the driver had been deported once for drugs, the only way he was back here was as an illegal.....whats wrong with pointing out that if this country bothered to protect its borders Alice would be alive?

FWIW, the police report notes the flip-flops as part of a description, and then says "there was no indication that the unusual choice of footwear impeded the decedent's ability to operate the bicycle."

Flip flops: I agree with Chris. MPD mentions flip flops but then states they were not a cause. I have no problem with them asking questions like this as long as they come up with the right answer. I think the flip flops actually undermine their argument that she was riding too fast.

@ think a little. Your logic can also be used to say, "If Alice Swanson had woken up 5 minutes later, she'd still be alive." That's silly. Worry about the hurricane, not the butterfly.

whats wrong with pointing out that if this country bothered to protect its borders Alice would be alive?

It's irrelevant. Alice Swanson didn't die because he was an illegal immigrant. It has as much to do with this as the temperature in Seattle.

You're claiming she died because the "authority" did not do its job and allowed a bad driver on the road.

Im claiming that the "authority" did its job and kept the illegals out then he wouldnt be on the road.

In either case if those in charge had done their jobs, he wouldnt have been on the road. I fail to see the difference.

Was the driver an illegal immigrant? I mean, I don't see that in any of the stories.

@ Chris=
Ms. Swanson is claiming that the driver was deported for drugs once before. If you get the boot from the US for drugs you are never allowed back. So either he is an illegal or she is making it up.

An illegal immigrant kills a cyclist.

Somewhere a talk radio host looks skyward and whispers, "thank you."

We are assuming that he's an illegal. Think a Little's logic is reasonable, but I don't know if it's true that once deported for drug crimes it's impossible to immigrate legally.

The difference, think a little, is that requiring safe drivers is inherently relevant to road safety. Limiting immigration is not. No one says "we need to control the border to protect cyclists." No one reasonable at least.

If an illegal immigrant had saved someone's life, would that be an argument to not control the border?

@ Contrarian

No, an illegal immigrant killed a hot white chick, the staff at FOX is pissing themselves

@ Wash

Requiring safe drivers is like King Canute and the ocean, some things are never going to happen. As a society we have determined the "transaction cost" in human fatalites we are willing to accept for our convenience is pretty high. We dont accept 55mph speed limits, we dont ban trucks (or metro buses) in cities, and so on.
Until it happens to us.......

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