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Sadly, he won.

Another opponent of bike lanes, this time on Woodley Place, Brian Reba in ANC 3C-01, also won.

If and until DDOT stops giving the local ANC rep the right of first refusal for improvements that will save lives and benefit the many, we need to keep voting against these opponents of change.

The Trolley Trail just doesn't have the support. I still think we'd be better off seeking on-street bike infra in Palisades rather than the big ticket of the trail and trestle reno.

I think the polling shows it does have the support. DDOT just got funding for the feasibility study, let's see how that goes.

One thing to note here, is that DDOT keeps coming back to this project. It shows up on their radar every decade, and every time it goes down due to local opposition. Clearly DDOT sees it as a good idea - but they just haven't had the backbone to force it through the way the Little Falls Trail or the middle section of the MVT were. No one looks back on those as a mistake, so it's time to just do this already.

@Crickey
Here you go....here's the support documented by DDOT.
Offer is still out if you want to come to the Palisades so I can show you what its about.
https://ddot.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/ddot/page_content/attachments/Compiled%20Comments_Summary_0621.pdf

66% were in favor of some kind of improvement - but 53% of local residents (and 49% of all in the survey) wanted it to be kept grass/dirt - and only a small fraction want the paved biker path a few vocal folks like you keep pushing for. The way you are using this 'summary' document is misleading. This is already a bike-friendly neighborhood (I bike often) - I don't understand the need to impose additional paving of a few blocks behind people's homes vs. investing more in the CCT or for general traffic safety along MacArthur where people are going to go anyway.
https://www.palisadesdc.org/documents/survey_summary.pdf

I tend to discount any handle called "savetheX" as if paving a trail is going to destroy a neighborhood. Add to it calling it a "biker path" as if the folks on it will be riding Harleys. Rather than kids on bikes, families with trailers, parents with stroller, and all the other people who regularly use paved trails

"This is already a bike-friendly neighborhood"

So much so that anytime DDOT brings up improving the connection to the CCT on the north side of the neighborhood locals oppose it.

"I don't understand the need to impose additional paving of a few blocks behind people's homes vs. investing more in the CCT or for general traffic safety along MacArthur where people are going to go anyway."

For one, that's a false choice. We can do all of those things. And while it's not a need to pave it, paving it gives it greater utility. I'd be fine with a crushed stone path, but it's not as useful. There's a trade off. But this project is about more than the surface, it's also about bridges connecting it to Georgetown.

Yeah, the bridges are what is most needed. Otherwise it's going nowhere and is useful to pretty much only the people whose property abuts it.

@Save the Palisades
"This is already a bike-friendly neighborhood (I bike often)"

Two lies in the same sentence.
Why?
1) There are no bike lanes in the Palisades
2) If you biked often, you would know that.

Where do kids in the Palisades bike? On sidewalks. How safe is that? Cross streets and drive ways are not nearly as safe for 5 to 15 year olds, vs using a trail that hardly anyone uses.

Husker's got it. You need the trestle to make the trail into a transportation segment versus a linear park. And that's not going to happen. I really don't care that much one way or the other, I'm just stating a virtual certainty.

Crickey may be right, I dunno, but it kinda sucks that an area of DC that should be bikable has no good routes through it. I mean, MacArthur is okayish if you are comfortable taking the whole lane; it would be better if people stayed close to the speed limit. Reservoir is fine. I don't much like Foxhall. 44th is a good cut through in one direction for those who know about it.

Never tried 44th. I agree about the others. Reservoir and MacArthur seem like obvious candidates for a bike lane.

"You need the trestle to make the trail into a transportation segment versus a linear park. And that's not going to happen."

I'd say both of those statements are inaccurate. Even without the trestle, a trail from Galena to Foxhall would be a real transportation segment.

And as for what will or will not happen, I think that depends on what the feasibility study, that was recently funded and is starting soon, determines. Even without the existing trestle, a new trail bridge could be built in the ROW. I heard that NPS has said they wouldn't oppose it.

In the battle between ertia and inertia, my money is usually on inertia.

So I am working my way towards restoring the Foundry Branch Bridge.
There will need to be bridges at Battery Kimble Creek, The creek next to Reservoir RD sort of near Fletcher's Boat house, and a bridge over Clark St.
There use to be Trestle for the Streetcar over these areas from 1900 to about the 1970s so it can be done.

I've said it before and I'll say it again Crickey.....DDOT and I have discussed putting bike lanes on Macarthur Blvd and its a no go.
You'd have to remove all the parking on the street to get it done.
Huge amount of blow back.
And second, I don't think there is enough room on the side streets for them to park there even if we could do it.
The median is owned by the army corps and they aren't giving land away.
Even if they could, then you'd have to cut back the trees.

So bottom line, this has all been thought out by yours truly and DDOT.
If we could get a bike lane on Macarthur blvd then I probably wouldn't be working on putting one on the trolley trail....which, BTW is still the safest potential area to bike ride.
2 major cross streets(ReservoirRD and Foxhall RD) and 1 minor one
(Chain Bridge Road)

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